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If God’s Opinion is the Only one that Counts, Why do Jews and Athiests get to Marry?

May 22, 2012
Crowd in support of Gay Marriage

Crowd in support of Gay Marriage (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

I am so sick of all this gay marriage crap that I want to just take all the gays and all the Christians and send them to their room without supper or Facebook.

Ok, that was a horrible generalization and overreaction – it’s only a very small percentage of Christians and the GLBT community that are getting me mad, but I hope that my opening line at least got your attention.

I just learned about Mississippi pastor/lawmaker Rep. Andy Gipson who said on his Facebook page:

“Been a lot of press on Obama’s opinion on “homosexual marriage.” The only opinion that counts is God’s: see Romans 1:26-28 and Leviticus 20:13. Anyway you slice it, it is sin. Not to mention horrific social policy.”

This boils my blood too.  But we (the GLBT community and our allies) need to be more careful about how we address people like Mr. Gipson.

The verse from Leviticus says:

“If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”

Thus, many activists and citizens are outraged, saying that Mr. Gipson is endorsing the killing of gays and lesbians.

Really?

There are a lot of ignorant people in the world, but there is a big difference between believing homosexuality is a sin and believing that homosexuals should be lined up and shot.  When we make such extreme statements – such as accusing the likes of Mr. Gipson of encouraging murder – we lose credibility as rational and intelligent members of society.

We love to find little loopholes and contradictions like this when we disagree with someone.  But as satisfying as it can be, it doesn’t accomplish anything.  Nobody leaves the debate understanding or respecting the other, and generally both parties walk away hating each other more than when they began.

I do not believe for a moment that Mr. Gipson wants to see anyone killed.  He was just quoting the standard bible verse used by most conservative Christians to validate their views on same-sex marriage.

I do, however, believe that he is ignorant, misguided, and should not be serving as a lawmaker.

Not because he believes homosexuality is a sin, but because he is allowing his religious beliefs to govern his politics.

I will never judge the spiritual beliefs of any human being.  But to endorse legislation that affects our entire country based on one’s personal religious beliefs is reprehensible.  To say “The only opinion that counts is God’s” (referring to his Baptist God) is offensive to every American who believes in the freedom this country was founded upon.  Not just gays – everyone.

Why do people like Mr. Gipson talk as if homosexuality is the only sin in the bible?  Is it any less of a sin (from his perspective) to be Jewish or Muslim or atheist?  Has anyone ever been to a Baptist church that preaches “Don’t worry Buddhists, we’ll let you into heaven as long as you don’t go gay on us, deal?”

That’s the real flaw with Mr. Gipson’s statement. If his God’s opinion is the only one that matters, than why isn’t he endorsing legislation to ban any religious practice other than his own?  How is the marriage of an Islāmic man and woman any ‘better’ than a gay marriage in the eyes of his God?

While he is at it, he had better make tattoos, earrings and pornography illegal too.  That book of Leviticus is a bitch – if Leviticus were to replace our constitution then just about everyone would be screwed.

In fact, lets just save some time and refer to an old favorite from Romans; “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”

You see, to make sin illegal means everyone goes to jail (except of course for Jesus – he just got the death penalty).

I am not trying to disrespect the bible or Christians.  Everybody is entitled to their own beliefs no matter what.  I am only trying to point out that the laws of man can not be based on any religion.

God makes his/her own laws and (s)he doesn’t outsource the work to humans.

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4 Comments leave one →
  1. May 22, 2012 8:02 am

    Great post! This is another topic that consumes me when I allow myself the time to get involved. Religious biase is the reason why Thomas Jefferson warned U.S. Congress about the need for “separation of church and state”. Of course because it is not actually written in our Constitution in those exact words, many law makers just ignore it. Makes me a crazy woman! What I do know it that “the man/woman upstairs” doesn’t make mistakes – we all come into this world exactly how we are suppose to be. Condeming those who are born different (anything other than white and Christian) is blasphemous – they’re disrespecting God’s work. Wish we could make the “zealots” all understand that. The issue at hand regarding gay marriage needs to still be pushed – why does anyone care who marries who? It reminds me of days not long ago when interracial marriage was illegal – people fought for and against those rights – interracial marriage advocates finally won! Advocates for gay marriage need to keep pushing as well……the times are changing!
    Hugs,
    Jane

  2. Linda Wolfe permalink
    May 22, 2012 11:04 am

    Thanks for another dose of wonderful humor and good sense. How egotistic do we have to be to try to usurp the function of God? God doesn’t need us to do His job no matter how smart we may think we are nor how dead set on applying our own specific cultural beliefs or old testament/book of Moses scholarship to the lives of our brother/sisters. If you believe in God and have even the slightest understanding of the true spirit of Jesus’ (Buddah’s, Mohammed’s, insert enlightened being of your choice:______) teaching, it is clear that this sort of judgement is entirely God’s domain.

    I also agree with you that poking the embers of hateful thinking to expose its flaws must be done gently and without embellishments, to avoid spreading the fire. So as far as the possible implication of wishing anyone dead, (which may be the case for some with “righteous” anger) the mortality rate on this earth will remain 100% until we overcome this world. Therefore, wishing anyone dead for being different is at best a waste of time and energy and at worst turning against God and Her plan. To evoke the name of God, is to call up the eternal, that which does not die. For God to wish anyone dead, He would have to be divided against His own plan for salvation. So you can’t (like a suicide bomber, let’s say?) really believe that killing someone else or yourself is part of God’s plan. Nothing God did not create can have life and nothing She created can die. His plan is for eternal life for all His children and so eternal life must be the inheritance of every child of God. Her oneness, wholeness, and total inclusion is hard for us to fathom. But we can all understand this:

    Love thy neighbor as thyself.

    There are no exceptions made in that statement. We are all neighbors. No matter what we may believe, the truth is what it is, and someday we will all know what it is. Until then I hope we can demonstrate our love for each other by supporting the equal human rights deserved by all.

  3. May 23, 2012 9:42 pm

    Fight fire with historical data. I, too, am sick of the whole debate. The reality is that Christians are supposed to be following the New Testament, not the Old one. The good news is, a lot of those New Testament Christians are coming forth to state that the persecution of Gay people is simply not Christian. There is hope. However, I when you want people who are overly emotional to think deeply, you have to divert them to something a little less controversial than Gay marriage. I was tempted to wade in those waters when it dawned on me that it would be far more fruitful to state and emphasize some less well known facts about Jesus and the Bible and force people to think about the limitations of a book about the life of a Middle Eastern prophet of partial African descent who never spoke English because English did not yet exist. See, I’ve already sparked some attention.

    So when you get a chance, please peruse my “Six Historical Facts You Probably Di Not know About Jesus that you should know.” (http://leslyejoyallen.com/2012/05/21/six-historical-facts-you-probably-did-not-know-about-jesus-christianity-that-you-should-know/). Now, plenty of people are familiar with the information included in these “six facts,” but a ton of people are not. Once intelligent individuals are forced to actually think about all of this, they are also forced to deal with the fact that the Bible itself is up for questioning for a variety of reasons. By the way, it is not Leviticus that is scary, but Deuteronomy. If you read Deuteronomy and take it literally, you will understand that No One is going to enter the kingdom.

  4. August 23, 2012 9:20 am

    Stop, you are killing your dog!
    Someday soon homosexuality will be found to be the result of an abnormal gene. There has to be a scientific explanation for the huge number of people professing to desire the same sex, and not the opposite. Nature is funny and cruel at times, and homosexuality is one of its cruelest anomalies. I have friends (believe it or not) who are strict Catholic who denounce the possibility of a gene abnormality. One of them is a surgeon. His belief is that homosexuality is an aberrant behavior chosen by the individual. This is the strict biblical interpretation. I believe the Old Testament bible written thousands of years ago is based on the best minds of the time, without any of today’s facts to support those claims. Of course today’s facts still do not support homosexuality as a physical defect either, but someday soon it will.
    In the mean time, we must learn to be tolerant of anyone who professes to be gay. What gays have to be tolerant of is how repulsive their actions are to the heterosexual community.
    No one said this is an easy topic folks, but it is one we have to philosophize on and argue out while the scientific community sorts it out. Once the science supports the reason folks will shift the argument toward another problem.
    Peace be with you!

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